Waste it all chords5/30/2023 ![]() I would like to hear you improvising on the piano btw, can you share your videos? For more complex tasks like composing advanced academic pieces then it will help for sure. I think that for this purpose a good ear and taste and udnerstanding of how this music works will work way better than theory knowledge. There has been cases like Django who plaid without any formal knowledge, and so on and so on. I'm not mad at theory.So you mean if iits needed to know a lot of theory to playing what exactly? Jazz songs ? Well if so I think, for that purpose it is not needed to know a lot of theory. Mad-at-theory is my joke of accusing people who are kind of anti about theory. Well of course I have to pick up the fine detail by ear from what he plays.Ģ. I'd be more inclined to listen to him than some foos on the forum. I'm studying with Tony Monaco who is a top pro and he tells me everything in theory. And the greats did use devices, they weren't just winging it. I feel it really helps with playing music authentically because you can key in on devices used. My experience with applied theory has been great. It's quite theoretical to my understanding.ġ. ^ My opinion is that there was still theory back then and in early jazz. ![]() Then when I switched instruments I had to actually get more musicality together through ear.Ģ. I started on bass so could just play chord tones to accompany a group well. My experience with trying to use raw theory as music didn't work well, like you would expect, and how everyone says. Well of course I have to pick up the fine detail by ear from what he plays. ![]() How any self-respecting jazz musician can be so adamant in saying (their) theory is everything and beyond questioning is baffling to me, given that Jazz in its earliest stages was exactly a clash with the existing musical knowledge and theory.ġ)Do you need a lot of theory knowledge for what purpose? Because music is very wide, and there are different levels of playing/composing/creating?Ģ)WHat do you understand by being mad at theory? To know a lot of formal rules and understanding them from a formal point of view or could it be "intuitive knowledge"1. Which kind of reinforces the point reallyYeah I mean what we think of as music theory - which a lot of people often think of as set in stone - is a) culturally contingent and b) temporally contingent, that is it evolves. Musos tend to be drawn towards platonism. It doesn’t stop a lot of musicians saying this stuff, but it’s a bit of a cultural thing. In terms of theory having some innate existence in music ‘out there’… this seems quite easy to argue against as a philosophical position. I think great musicians and educators realise this is a rabbit hole and try and focus on the practicalities. Anything more that is getting into different territory but I think there’s a strong human desire to rationalise and explain. But that’s literally another thread lol.Īlso this an example of a bit of theory that was also used by c18 theory in fact, and no explanation was given beyond ‘this is a nice, stylish way of dealing with a bass that ascends in fourths’. most of it was invented in the 19th and 20th centuries. An irony (apparently lost on Adam) is the fact that the music theory taught today as ‘classical music theory’ wasn’t used by 18th century Western European musicians either.
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